Ellen DeGeneres and the American Psychopath

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/ellen-degeneres-and-the-american-psychopath/

But the more fundamental problem is that Americans are too nice. That may seem like a paradox, since we are a country that blithely bombs the world and then weeps with self-pity and affronted dignity when the little people we just stomped on fail to forgive us for tearing out their fingernails. In fact, our niceness is itself a symptom of the moral obliviousness that permits us to enact atrocities in the first place. Niceness is not friendliness, not hospitality, not charity and not goodness. Niceness is the blank grin on the face of the psychopath: it is the public enactment of all the forms of love and kindness without the troublesome burden of loving anyone or being actually kind.

This is what an Ellen DeGeneres is really getting at when she brags about being friends with people who have “different beliefs.” It is not a matter of actual emotional attachment to any system of values, and it’s certainly not a matter of transcending minor political squabbles to form some approximation of a community. We are all friends with people who have different beliefs. It is quite literally nothing to brag about. For all the now-clichéd talk of America sorting itself ever more by affect and affinity group, pretty much every social person has friends with beliefs that differ—in ways large and small—radically from their own.

Rather, she is saying that it is more personally and professionally convenient just to be nice to whatever person happens to be in the same grandstand for the same spectacle of large men grievously injuring each other. It is not that there are disparate values to be bridged in order to form a diverse and tolerant society. Instead, it is hankering after the ease of a society in which there is no necessity to form a core of values beyond the practical calculation of personal and social advantage.

In 2003, not long after George W. Bush declared “major combat operations” to be over in Iraq, American soldiers kidnapped and detained an Iraqi woman not much older than Ellen DeGeneres. They took her from Samarra to Tikrit, where they forced her to stir human shit, which they set on fire with lighter fluid. When she told them she could stir no longer, a “sergeant came up to [her] and whispered in [her] ear, ‘If you don’t, I will tell one of the soldiers to fuck you.’”

Well, that is indeed a regrettable episode, but I’m sure everyone learned a valuable lesson, and it is certainly not—16 years later—a reason to be rude to the guy responsible.

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I wonder if Jacob Bacharach would be just as upset if Ellen was with Obama.

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This is kind of far fetched.

Civilization and Its Discontents.

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He makes quite a few great points,how did you pick Obama out of all former Presidents to ask if he would be just as “upset”?

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You are right. I could have picked any President since they were all psychopaths.

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He probably picked Obama because he came after Bush, was president during the time Ellen DeGeneres has had her career on national television, and it wouldn’t have been such an issue because Obama and DeGeneres have seemingly similar views on life and politics.

“Nice” lol

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Bullshit! lol jk… touchee. Are “we” though? Sounds like a generalization fallacy. Sure, maybe every single different individual on this planet has dissimilar beliefs, and “we” ALL get together so well, don’t we? You know, because “EVERYONE” believes you don’t have to have the same beliefs in order to get along. These fallacy generalizations are amazing for a published author. The original message from DeGeneres was aimed at Americans, yet maybe this is something the world needs to hear. The irony of Bacharach mentioning Iraq is, people with different beliefs are not treated kindly there among themselves in their own country, just thinking of the Kurds in Northern Iraq, then Northern Syria, SE Turkey, and Western Iran. Are there any groups of people being treated unjustly, all kindness aside, in the US, today? Is there any connection between justice and kindness?

Is being “kind” to everyone the same as being “nice” to everyone? Maybe two similar yet dissimilar terms have been mixed from one speaker, to one author, to the audience. I think its a shame when a writer makes gross fallacy generalizations to monkey back a “feel good” presentation with seemingly good intentions in a time of apparent political contention. The premise being? Obviously there are plenty of people on Earth who have no intention of being kind to someone else with different beliefs. Bacharach is a Jewish name, so maybe he could shed more light on this topic in regards to Israel and Palestine. Or, how about the Kurds in the Middle East? Perhaps Pakistan and India? Well, if those don’t fit, they’re getting along so well with their different beliefs and identities, maybe he can explain how different beliefs do so well for the relationships between China and Tibet, China, and Taiwan, North Korea and South Korea.

I’m sorry, I won’t be “nice”, its not the way of the author. To be “kind” though, the author of that article is a dumb ass and I’m surprised he has had any of is shit writings published, lol. Oh damn, did I just blow my premise? Having friends with different beliefs isn’t to be “bragged” about, but its something to be celebrated, and reciprocated. I don’t have the same beliefs as the author though, so he can fuck off! Lol! Oh, that was, “nice”. Blank Grin Please, tell me more about what Ellen DeGeneres is saying.

Is this guy advocating to go and stir some shit on fire? Clearly I missed something here. Or, is this his shitty way of writing, “Stir the flaming shit, so you don’t fucked, and don’t be rude to the guy responsible?” Dumb ass writer. Yeah, because George Bush is the sole reason every woman in the Middle East has ever been subject to abuse. What a fucking idiot.

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It’s not just him that has a problem with this

Back in November 2018, Michelle Obama described George W. Bush as “a beautiful, funny, kind, sweet man,” shortly after images of the former first lady and the former president sharing a cough drop went viral.

On Tuesday, talk show host Ellen DeGeneres told her audience that she is “friends with George Bush,” after images of her laughing with the 43rd president at a Dallas Cowboys game also went viral. In an extended monologue, she explained that she is “friends with a lot of people who don’t share the same beliefs that I have. … Just because I don’t agree with someone on everything doesn’t mean that I’m not going to be friends with them.

A double confession: I’m an admirer of Ellen, who has been a champion of refugees and a supporter of Muslims. I’m also guilty of having favorably compared George W. Bush to Donald J. Trump (although, to quote Jacobin’s Branko Marcetic, “next to Trump, just about anyone compares favorably.”)

Bush should be treated as a pariah not because he is a Republican or a conservative, but because he caused the deaths of thousands of innocent people and tortured hundreds of others.

Yet Ellen’s specific argument in defense of her friendship with the former president is both nonsensical and offensive. No one is suggesting that she shouldn’t be pals with a conservative or a Republican. Bush’s beliefs are irrelevant here; his actions are what matters. He was one of the most destructive presidents in modern American history; a man who has never been held to account for a long litany of crimes, misdeeds, and abuses of power committed during his two bloodstained terms in office. The reason “43” should be treated as a pariah is not because he is a Republican or a conservative, but because he caused the deaths of thousands of innocent people and tortured hundreds of others.

Ask the people of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. The so-called war on terror launched by Bush in 2001, in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, has since killed around 250,000 civilians in those three countries, according to a landmark Brown University study in 2018. Remember the 24 unarmed Iraqi civilians massacred by U.S. troops in Haditha in 2005? Or the Shinwar massacre in Afghanistan in 2007, in which U.S. Marines “tore down a six-mile stretch of highway, hitting almost anyone in their way – teenage girls in the fields, motorists in their cars, old men as they walked along the road”? Or the more than 100 Pakistani children killed by 51 CIA drone strikes authorized by Bush between 2004 and the start of 2009? Is it any wonder, then, that Bush’s own former counterterrorism chief accused of him committing war crimes?

Ask the families of more than 4,200 U.S. troops who were killed in Iraq. Bush, who conveniently avoided serving in Vietnam, sent thousands of young people to their deaths in the Middle East in 2003, after he and members of his administration told demonstrable lies to make the case for an illegal war. The then-commander-in-chief falsely claimed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. He falsely claimed that Saddam Hussein was working with Al Qaeda. He has never apologized for these falsehoods.

Ask the family of Tareq Ayoub. He was the 35-year-old Al Jazeera correspondent who was killed when a U.S. warplane launched on airstrike on the network’s Baghdad bureau in April 2003, less than three weeks after Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq. You think calling journalists “fake news” is bad? According to the U.K.’s Daily Mirror newspaper, Bush “made clear he wanted to bomb Al Jazeera in Qatar” at a meeting with then-U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair just eight days after the killing of Ayoub. Blair, according to the Mirror, had to persuade him not to.

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