Russia used BTC to indict the US Election? WTF?


#1

First of all, being Russian, it really sounds to me like yet again anti-Trump anti-Russia propaganda! But seriously… WTF?

https://www.coindesk.com/russian-dnc-hackers-used-cryptocurrency-to-fund-their-operations/

@Peter, need your coverage on that and your opinion, as well as of other Pubbers. :tv:

My opinion: Russian military, most likely, did not know about BTC back then. But who knows? But where did they get THAT many BTC? I mean if it was true, back then it was somewhere in the realm of 600 USD. To make this operation you need MILLIONS of USD, and HUNDRED THOUSANDS of BTC. Where are those transfers on the BTC ledger? I don’t see that many coins transferred in the 2016. Questions, questions, questions… No answers. :thinking:

Well… I want your opinions on this.

To me, really, it’s yet another attack/propaganda against BTC.

Meanwhile, yooooo… Keep on buying more, you pesky Russian KGB Agents! :beetconnect:
I mean, all Americans holding BTC now count as working for KGB, right? :wink:


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#2

You’re right. If BTC was used then show the txns.

Should have used Monero. :man_shrugging:


#3

Im pretty sure the Russian Military
did not learn about bitcoin until early 2018.


#4

If it were not for crypto nation states would not be able to get away with such things. For example the U.S. wouldn’t be able to try and influence… say the Israeli elections with the dollar.


#5

More distraction and disinformation.


#6

Not sure what the concern is really. BTC has been used by all sorts of nefarious groups and individuals almost since it was publically available. That said many more people using it for regular things nowadays. Many of the criminal types are moving to privacy coins now. BTC will be fine this is nothing new.

The fact that it was used by Russian Intelligence is clearly documented in the latest Mueller indictments unless of course you believe that is all a deep state conspiracy!

https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download


#8

Yeah. I’m not denying the fact that BTC was used for nefarious reasons. That’s just obvious.

Plus, I am not implying that it have not been used by the Russian Intelligence. Everything is possible. As a matter of fact, if true, it was very smart move (but they were better off using Monero).

But if we are talking about the open public ledger ie. “Blockchain” as it was called in the document you’ve linked (thanks for that, btw), at least, show us addresses and TXs. If they can show us this info, ok, I would believe this 100%. If not… well, Bitcoin’s blockchain is immutable, they can’t falsify the evidence recorded on it. It’s not a closed info (like a bank account).

I am all for fairness and openness when it comes to that type of cases.


#9

I am sure we would all love to see the evidence but there is no way they are going to show us anything yet even the indictment contains the barest minimum so as not to tip others off as to what they know. If they did provide the BTC addresses you can be sure there would be a bunch of us tracing every transaction and where it led! It time we should definitely get to see it and that will be fascinating :+1:t2:


#10

Hmm… I think that we can find it ourselves. A quote from a document:

  1. The Conspirators used several dedicated email accounts to track basic bitcoin transaction information and to facilitate bitcoin payments to vendors. One of these dedicated accounts, registered with the username “gfadel47,” received hundreds of bitcoin payment requests from approximately 100 different email accounts. For example, on or about February 1, 2016, the gfadel47 account received the instruction to “[p]lease send exactly 0.026043 bitcoin to” a certain thirty-four character bitcoin address. Shortly thereafter, a transaction matching those exact instructions was added to the Blockchain.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block-height/396045

That’s the block dated 2016-01-31 23:30:44

We just need to find the TX that contains this EXACT amount of BTC (0.026043) in the blocks above.

I, unfortunately, don’t know how to automate this search, but if it’s there, it’s there. We can trace the Bitcoin from there.


#11

https://oxt.me/transaction/3C4C026CE8A285DDC281F78E5F9D00DF2C19D627904165696FAF8263A6F34761

i did not find this, credit to this guy: https://twitter.com/marceljamin/status/1017831518113353728

Edit: going further into the addresses reveal tons of small transactions as described in the article as well.